Back to Basics: Waiting For Someday/Maybe

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I mentioned before that I don’t use contexts as recommended by David Allen. However, there are two kinds of lists he recommends that I do use, and get a ton of use from. These are the “Someday/Maybe” list and the “Waiting For” list.

Did you ever think that someday…?

The Someday/Maybe list is a catch-all for all your crazy ideas and whacked-out plans that you just don’t have time to pursue today. Have an idea for a great novel, but need to learn how to write a novel first? Put it on the Someday/Maybe list. Notice that your kitchen is looking a little “retro”, and not in a good way? Add “remodel kitchen” to the Someday/Maybe list.

Someday/Maybe acts as a record and as a set of triggers. As a record, it helps you hold onto ideas that are a little bit (or a lot!) outside the range of your normal day-to-day life. You aren’t going to go remodel your kitchen right this instant. You aren’t even going to start planning to remodel the kitchen right this instant. It’s just an idea, something you thought about that might be nice to do, someday. Maybe.

As a set of triggers, the Someday/Maybe list gives you something to think about when you have a few minutes free to consider your goals from a “wider picture” perspective. Maybe you’ve just finished a big project and are trying to think of what you might take on next. Or maybe you just came into some money – like a big tax return or a slot machine jackpot – and you’re trying to figure out how to spend it. You scan down your list and notice that, a few months ago while you were preparing the avocado dip for your Superbowl party, you thought about remodeling the kitchen. Now that you’ve got some extra cash in your pocket, you can start thinking about how you’d like your kitchen to look.

Although this isn’t “orthodox” GTD, you can also work a little from your Someday/Maybe list. In theory, you’re supposed to move things from Someday/Maybe to your active projects list and start creating next actions when you “activate” a Someday/Maybe item, but as you scan your list, you might well start coming up with ideas – a plot point for your imagined novel, a color scheme for your future kitchen. Go ahead and write those ideas into your Someday/Maybe list with the original idea, or break the item out to its own page in your notebook (or the equivalent in whatever system you’re using to keep your lists) and start brainstorming.

If you find yourself planning steps that are actually immediately doable, or that you’ve already done, then it’s time to move your ideas off the Someday/Maybe list and into your active projects. But if you’re still daydreaming about the future, keep them separated – psychologically, you’ll know these aren’t goals, these are just things to think about now nad again, and someday, maybe, they’ll be goals.

Wait for it…!

Waiting For is also a future-oriented list. It’s a place to record all the things you are, as the name suggests, waiting for. Anything you’re waiting for, especially things you need to move to the next step of a project, goes on the list – a book you ordered online, a report from a colleague that you need to finish your own report, anything that you’re expecting and need to keep track of.

The reason to list this stuff is that if you’re waiting for something, it shouldn’t be on your mind. There’s nothing you can do about it until it gets to you, right? And yet, they shouldn’t be totally forgotten, either. What if that book doesn’t arrive within 10 days? What if your co-worker goes on a three-day drinking binge instead of compiling the data you need for your end-of-quarter report?

Having a separate list of this stuff can free you from keeping it on your mind while also giving you the opportunity to periodically scan through your list to see if there’s anything you should, in fact, be worried about. If it’s been 10 days and that book isn’t there yet, you need to check your order status – maybe it’s back-ordered. Or maybe it’s lost and you need to contact the bookseller.

A good Waiting For entry has several elements:

  • The thing you’re waiting for,
  • The source of that thing,
  • The project you need it for,
  • The date that you put it on the list, and
  • The date that you expect it.

So, for instance, you order a book for an essay you’re writing on August 12th; it ships in 2-3 days and you’ve requested 2-day delivery. So you can expect to receive it by the 19th (accounting for the weekend). You’re Waiting For entry might look like this:

  • “Things You Need to Know About Salamanders” from Amazon for salamander essay. 8/12, due 8/19.

That gives you enough information to know a) when to complain, b) when not to worry, c) what project you can’t work on until the book comes, and d) what to do with it when it arrives.

What I do

Because I don’t keep contextually-organized lists, I don’t actually keep separate lists for Someday/Maybe and Waiting For. Instead, I preface every Someday/Maybe item with “S/M” and every Waiting For item with “W/F”. In my online task manager, I can easily sort those items together by alphabetizing the list.

S/M items aren’t dated, so they sort to the bottom of the list when I’m looking at my list by date. W/F items are given a due date matching the day I expect to get it, so they’ll come up with the rest of my actions on that day and I can follow up, if necessary.

Although I add stuff to both lists as I think of things, I also pay special attention to them when I do my reviews. I strike off W/F items that I’m no longer waiting for, and add new ones I might have forgotten to add during the week. I also take a look at my Someday/Maybe items to see if there’s anything I’ve started paying a lot more attention to, or anything I’d like to start working on. And I think of new things to put on there – since Someday/Maybe is a “no-pressure” list, I feel comfortable putting things down that I very likely won’t do. Often the ideas feed into something down the road that I couldn’t have foreseen, even if the original idea never comes into fruition.

Don’t wait for someday!

Start setting up a way to keep track of Someday/Maybe and Waiting For items now. Even if you’re not sold on the idea of task lists for everyday use, having a place to keep track of stuff you’re waiting on and another to keep track of your wildest thoughts can be a great help on their own.

Maybe some of our readers have their own ways of keeping track of this stuff that they’d like to share? Drop us a note in the comments!

  • http://writerdad.com Writer Dad

    I’m embarrassed to admit it, but my someday lists are longer than my to do lists, which tells me quite plainly that I need to get a better handle on today and stop thinking about tomorrow.

  • http://protoscholar.com Rebecca

    I gave up on a someday/maybe list because to me it wasn’t a no pressure list. It was a list of all the things I wished I could do but never had the time for. It was a constant reminder of how buried I was in the day to day grind and the projects I had already committed to.

    I know, I know; prioritize. But I had; I wasn’t upset with what WAS on my regular lists but the fact that there wasn’t room for more so that some of the someday/maybe things could move off.

    For example, I work full time and am working on a PhD. Anyone who has done either realizes that there is little time left for hobbies on that list, let alone more studies. Yet I live in the southwest, so on my someday/maybe list is Learn Spanish. I want to do that; heck, NEED to do that. But have no clue when I will get to it. And that made the S/M list uncomfortable for me.

  • http://tools-for-thought.com Andre Kibbe

    If you keep your list digitally, you can often use priority codes to throw these categories to the very bottom of a single-threaded list if you’re not using context lists. On the Palm Desktop, for instance, you can assign a Someday/Maybe item with a “2″ code and a Waiting For with a “3″. Alpha sort is pretty effective, but certain tasks will get sandwiched between entries with “S/M” and “W/F” prefixes — e.g. “Take out the trash”

    Personally, I avoid using the Someday/Maybe list for “crazy” ideas unless I know the idea will resurface from time to time. As I mentioned in my last post, I use the Someday/Maybe category for things that would otherwise be active projects, but aren’t due to lack of resources or some intuitive reservation.

    If I’m holding back on a project for no other reason than a lack of information, I make it a research project where the successful outcome is having sufficient data to decide whether or not to actualize the project, to dismiss it from my mind and Someday/Maybe list, or to put it on that list.

    My Someday/Maybe list only has outcomes — no support materials. If I want to collect information about something whose intention is unclear, I create a file, either physical are digital, with notes, pictures, mind maps, or other support materials.

  • http://frugalnyc.blogspot.com FrugalNYC

    I’ve yet to put this to use myself. Though I do write them down in a personal wiki. I also have a short list that are less outrageous that I review more often.

    The great thing about GTD is that it can be modified to your specific needs. I, only started to use it.

  • http://torley.com Torley Lives

    Another great post, Dustin!

    I have a similar list for when I get bored and need something to do — I refer to my list of “Someday Maybes” and get hopping on a few of them. Helps make use of time that would otherwise be squandered. And I like having tools like Evernote to store my loose ideas.

  • http://www.cubiclehacks.com Cubicle Hacker

    I try to review my list every other day. I have created several (four using google docs) documents. One for each current project. They are written as business plans. What is the purpose, what is the path, what works and what doesn’t, where am I, what is the next step. These are all important questions to ask before I add an item into my Advance TODO documents shaped as business plans.

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  • http://enjoyparenting.blogspot.com Michael@ Awareness * Connection

    Another handy post. You’re good at hitting the essentials one after another, and her captured the reasons why these lists are important. The specific tips on what to include in the waiting for lists I found especially helpful.

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    That’s a great content dustinn. It was really useful.

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  • http://lifestumbler.com lifestumbler

    It’s also a good idea to review the Someday/Maybe list regularly, like in a weekly review. Otherwise the list might get longer and longer. Not everything that seems like a good idea when it enters the list, is such a great idea that it deserves to stay there forever. And if it’s such a great idea, it might be a good idea to move it to your active projects list :)

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  • http://www.livemedcoast.com Anthony Duggan

    Life can be full of too many lists, list to remind you of a list,of a list of a list, and then if you donçt number your list then life gets complicated as which list refers to which list and in what order is the list for….

  • http://daniellekelley.remax.com Pinellas Realtor

    So if my Someday/Maybe list is something I Probably-won’t and Never-Will do, then what a sad list it is. Unless i plan to stash things that I won;t be sad about never getting done, then the list will just serve as a reminder of wasted potential. I’m old enough in life to know that if you want to do something you might want to put it on a “kick yourself into action” list, or stop putting this off list. Just moving things from one list to another is hardly a valuable use of your time in my opinion. Lists should be made to be checked off. My husband still makes grocery lists and leaves them at home when he goes, (but i still love him)

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    well, don’t worry people … 20 years ago I had this on my someday list; make money online, so I can move to a tropical island … today I’m living in Phuket, Thailand :)

    a dream can only come true as long you have one !

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  • http://www.clandestine.co.za Mike

    I’ve got a long list to get through…

  • http://www.killgames.org Gamer

    Well, I don’t like lists … so many lists of everything in life.

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    “I don’t like lists” – well, I don’t like having to keep everything in my head: what’s your secret for remembering everything and getting it done?!

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  • http://www.mind-manual.com RT Wolf

    This is an old post, but I thought I’d contribute anyway. My S/M list is long (over 200, maybe 300 items) which makes reviewing this list during the weekly review a bit of a hassle. So I’ve done three things:

    1. Divided my list up based on when they might be conceivably actionable (by time and by context). So, I have seperate “toRead” lists which I look at if/when I’m looking for a book to read, a seperate “toBuy” list for when I have a bit of extra money. That is, if I know I have a bit of extra money in a given week, I’ll read that list else I’ll just skim it.

    2. This is a rule for myself to help keep the list manageable: put something on the list after I’ve thought of it the second time. I used to put things on the list when I would first think about and get excited about them…except I have way too many ideas which are just interesting the first time and upon sober reflection I would never do them. If something comes up a second time in my head, it might be something I might end up doing.

    3. Every weekly review, try to eliminate at least one item off the list, again to keep the list manageable. Some items I just don’t feel as interested in or connected to as I used to. Or my life direction has changed and items which used to be relevant aren’t anymore. Or, I’ll simply note my motivation for having written something down and decide I don’t want to connect with that motivation anymore. “Read Shakespeare” sounds nice and all, but the reason it used to be on my list was cause it was on other people’s lists of things to do before they die, and cause I thought it was something that would make me “cultured”. But, I realized that unless I personally want to read Shakespeare out of interest, there’s no point in putting that on my list cause it’ll never get done. Also realized that Shakespeare’s main audiences tended to be illiterate, so it’s funny that its “cultured” to know his work today.

    Similarly, “write a book” is one of those things everyone wants to have done, but not everyone wants to do. Saying I’m an author at a party is great and all, but it’s not something I’m genuinely interested in right now. And “writing a book” is kinda like “burning a cd”. What matters is what’s shared on either. Some things are just best shared in book form.

    I would like to add one more note: check out Getting Things Done FAST. It’s a hard-to-find (though easily available on torrents) recording of a GTD seminar by David Allen. It’s really good. He emphasizes that these lists are not to constrict you or to be taken as overbearing rules, but to simply get off your own back so you can go off and live your life. Often, he says, he’ll go do things that weren’t on any lists, but the reason he can do that is cause he has his lists so he’s off his own back.

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    I’ve got a long list to get through…